Sunday, June 24, 2007

Chanelle, Titi and la règle hors-jeu

Regular readers of Pseuds will remember our young friend Chanelle. She has been chatting again to Zephirine.


“OMG Thierry’s leaving, Alicia and I were like speechless. Well not for long lol. But it’s like end of a thing yeah, whatsit, era. I used to love him sooo much like I had pictures of him all over my room and even though I’m older now it’s like he belongs to us what is he doing going away??? Well of course making about four million squid a year and hoping to win big shiny trophies is what he’s doing but all the same. You see this is why I used to say to Karl the football anorak, yeah, I was like don’t care so much about it Karl cos football will break your heart yeah and here is the proof.

“Cos this is my theory right, that apart from having too much importance in the universe yeah, football is like it says in poetry a cruel mistress. All these blokes are so in love with their team yeah and they give it all this loyalty and stuff and does it care? And like mathematically yeah most football fans are guaranteed to be miserable most of the time right cos only a few teams win everything and everybody else like suffers. So they’re like pouring all this emotion down the drain really, but as Alicia says yeah if they didn’t have football men would never speak to each other at all right so I suppose then the world would like grind to a halt.

“Anyway we were down the pub yeah with Alicia’s boyfriend Gavin and some French bloke he’s picked up with. Now you might remember Gavin is Mr Knows About Sport yeah, on account of that’s all they did at the Academy of Snot or whatever his posh school was called. And the frog guy seemed to be like pretty much the same. And they were arguing about some offside decision or other and like ignoring us.

“Now there is a thing where Alicia and me disagree right, which is this. Alicia’s really smart yeah, all her family’s the same they can put two and two together make five and sell it back to you for seven if you know what I mean. But when there’s blokes about she just like puts her brain away in her bag for later yeah. And I don’t see the point of that right cos who wants to be around a bloke who thinks you’re stupid? Well, her obviously lol. So when I tried to join in the conversation she kicked me a bit yeah but I carried on and then the frog guy was like “Ah, so you understand ze offside rule Chanelle?” in a really patronising voice and I’m like “Yeah”. Cos what’s so difficult yeah, Karl explained it to me, if you’re like involved in any serious action you’ve got to have more than two of the other blokes between you and the goal so like is that like complex?

“So I said what is the French for offside anyway and he said what sounded like Roger. So I thought typical frog yeah they can’t even think up their own words for stuff but as Alicia said later yeah cos she likes the French cos they had a house there she said yeah but we use their words like boutique and crème caramel so I had to admit she was right cos a world without boutiques would be a sad place lol.

“When we got back from the pub I was well pissed off with Gav and Froggo treating me like a moron yeah so I called Karl the football anorak and said like “Karl I’m soooo depressed about TH14 leaving yeah can we talk about it?” And he ran round to my place quicker than old Thierry himself so we are again an item and all’s well that, you know, whatever.”

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Ebren said...

I was out the other day and heard someone say "lol".

I mean. Where do you even begin?

Top stuf once again Miss Z - I dipped my fingertips into cricket earlier today, so I feel it's only fair you are joining in with the footy.

MotM said...

OMG! They're back! LOL!!!

mimi said...

Hadn't realised how much I'd missed the girls. Brilliant. And honestly, why do they make such a fuss about the offside rule anyway?

guitougoal said...

Chanelle,
offside, hors-jeu, hor-side,offjeu whatever Titi will be in Barcelona ,fuera de juego con fuego or sin fuego...we are an item again.La vie est belle.

Zeph said...

You can blame Monsieur Hors-jeu sur Tahiti for this one, he requested Chanelle's views on the matter..

guitougoal said...

Zeph,
I'll thank him for that.Probably a mojito in Cannes soon will do it.

Zeph said...

Ah, a Pseuds' rendezvous on the Côte! The off-topic will be flowing free.

marcela said...

someone e-mailed me this during the world cup. i knew it would come in handy one day :)

Subject: FW: Girls in preparation for the world cup! THE OFFSIDE RULE


In preparation for the World Cup, the "offside rule" explained for
women:

You're in a shoe shop, second in the queue for the till. Behind the shop
assistant on the till is a pair of shoes which you have seen and which
you must have.

The female shopper in front of you has seen them also and is eyeing them
with desire. Both of you have forgotten your purses.

It would be rude to push in front of the first woman if you had no money
to pay for the shoes.

The shop assistant remains at the till waiting.

Your friend is trying on another pair of shoes at the back of the shop
and sees your dilemma.

She prepares to throw her purse to you.

If she does so, you can catch the purse, then walk round the other
shopper and buy the shoes!

At a pinch she could throw the purse ahead of the other shopper and
"whilst it is in flight" you could nip around the other shopper, catch
the purse and buy the shoes!

BUT, you must always remember that until the purse has "actually been
thrown", it would be plain wrong for you to be in front of the other
shopper and you would be OFFSIDE!

mimi said...

But Marcela: are these really must-have fuck-me shoes? Are the heels covered with glitter mirrors and at least 4 inches high - with satin on the main shoe?

marcela said...

mimi, they could be brown suede mocasins... it don't really matter :)

the point is, without the offside rule there would be too many goals.

fuck-me shoes rule, undoubtedly, but shopping would be no fun at all if there wasn't something a little bit special about scoring...

bluedaddy said...

Great work Zeph, Chanelle roolz.

There are such things as Fuck Me goals - such as

'Fuck me, how did the ref give that, Inzaghi was miles offside?"'

or 'Fuck me, how did Zamora score from there?'

offside said...

I request, she writes.
I even appear as "Froggo", which has a nice lord-of-the-rings ring to it.
They name a rule after me.

After that, how do you expect me not to grow a bit of a melon?

Thanks, Zeph, that was a treat.

Zeph said...

Offside - your wish, etc. (though Chanelle doesn't seem to have thought much of the froggy guy...)

BD - can't remember which big match it was, but I was walking past one of the Mile End Road pubs when a vital goal was scored, and a girl came rushing out of the pub onto the pavement screaming "Fuck me! Fuck Me! Fuck ME!" An Asian lady passing by was absolutely terrified.

Emma said...

Another great installment of Chanelle, Zeph, very amusing; top, top stuff.

Though she sounds scarily like a girl in my class. The way she talks, her devotion to Thierry, all of it... :S

@ Marcela - best way of learning about the offside rule. ever.

bluedaddy said...

Hey there Emma/Fishcake

How are those exams going?

And when does Pseuds get its first piece from the House of Zummer?

Zeph said...

Good to know I'm getting it right Emma :)

Hope the exams are going OK.

munni said...

Out of curiosity, does anyone know the origin of the term offside? I'd never given much thought to the etymology but have just decided that fuera/hors make a lot more sense than "off-".

I must confess that it took me ten minutes to understand the shoe shopping analogy. I got all worried that I wouldn't be able to run or leap in order beat the other shopper, because I fall over a lot in fuck-me shoes. Then I realised that I was missing a key point. (These are the thought processes that I really should keep to myself).

Ebren said...

etimology pretty simple.

Created in the mid-19th century in England/Britain (probably by public schoolboys) to describe a player in an illegal position to recieve the ball.

Also the right side of a horse.

The side of a vehicle not near the kerb. and the side you hold your bat in cricket.

Zeph said...

The 'off' side is the outside, isn't it, and the 'near' side is the inside, presumably offside is outside the inside of the correct playing area (for your side, obviously)?

Munni, don't you know you should always wear trackshoes to go shopping, so you can run and leap over rival shoppers, and if you should happen to kick them there won't be much damage for them to sue you over:)

munni said...

Invented by public schoolboys? Ah, that explains it.

HannibalBrooks said...

I wouldn't really care what Amy had on her feet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvswbFCj3z0

guitougoal said...

marcela's offside rule-"you can catch the purse..." what if someone else catch the purse and run away with it, is it an fuck me interception?

marcela said...

ha!

great clip, mr brooks sir.

thanks...

don't you mean fack me interception, guy?

mimi - these are the shoes i had in mind:
(click on the 'larger image' option for full detail)

http://www.amazon.com/Perfect-Pitch-Women-Simon-Kuper/dp/0747275106

more shopping for rather than shopping in, munni

Zeph said...

Hannibal, great clip! The two girls in the background are not actually Chanelle and Alicia, but I believe they were in the same class at school...

Guitou - yeah :)

bluedaddy said...

Did the pub pop quiz tonight. Couple of good ones.

First is a crossword clue.

Ill tapeworm unravelled gives damp horse fan.

(This I know the answer to)

And

Name a band that made a worthwhile comeback album.

Couldnt get one at all.

Come on Pseuds (I'm lookin at chew Brooksie)

That Amy is a real number isnt she?

Zeph said...

BD, you can't come up with this challenging stuff at this time of night... I'm looking WET LOMPRAIL, was that a band?

As for comebacks, no idea. I can think of solo artists but no bands.

Did you win the quiz?

bluedaddy said...

Forget bands. Any comeback album will do.

Re crossword: 5,6

guitougoal said...

don't know about a comeback's band but Michael Moore is making a comeback here tonight-I am going to a private screening of his last:"sicko" and he will be there for the Q. & A. I'll ask him one question.
another quiz.

bluedaddy said...

And we submitted Water Liplom so I am not claiming any genius (3rd last, 4th best BTW Zeph)

Gotta sleep. But you'll smack yerselves when you get the answer.

bluedaddy said...

Guitou, went to a MM signing and talk years ago. He was good fun. One of my all time favourite books has an intro by him. It's called Rivethead, and is by a guy called Ben Hamper, who featured in Moore's first film, Roger and Me. It is a superb book about life on the assembly line, and has the most surprising ending of any book I have ever read. I thoroughly recommend it to one and all. Goodnight y'all.

Yawn said...

Metal Riplow?

DoctorShoot said...

Zeph...
like we thought she went away?..

as a student from the academy of poor snot myself I thought the Bee Gees comeback album 'you win again' might have the horse fans out of their seats, but not really a wet tracker,
and the sick tapeworm?.. well it's got me or at least it hasn't...

wilma petrol would hardly suffice...

DoctorShoot said...

chanelle number 2:)...

Off side trap:
from Wild Pig Trap pt VI:
"...place rotted bait (earlier suggestion being an off side of beef) in centre of spiral and ensure that dangling lances cannot be dislodged by pigs entering...."

guitougoal said...

Bluedaddy,
I didn't have the opportunity to see Roger and me,
but based on my experience tonight, I am sure you had a lot of fun. He is the coolest and funiest great humanist on earth.He spent two hours on stage answering to all the questions with clarity and great sens of humor providing all kind of details -His movie is humiliating for the american public services system opposed to the British (great sequence in London) and the French system-he praised both of them-The ending in guantanamo and Cuba was the icing on the cake-Glad I didn't miss this one.

bluedaddy said...

Marti Pellow

(of Wet Wet Wet, and reformed heroin addict).

Sleep has not revealed a comeback artist's album of any worth though.

Ebren said...

hate to say it, but the new Take That is pretty decent. Or at least they've got number ones with it - which is more than most.

file said...

gripping stuff Zeph, an insight into a world of parrallel and yet completely other dimensions

bd, Flootweed Mac 'tango..', not really sure if it's worthy or comeback but hey...

file said...

Double Fantasy?

Zeph said...

Wilma Petrol and Metal Riplow are forming a neo-punk light metal band at this very moment... I got as far as thinking about Wet3 but didn't remember the guy.

Comebacks: have to nominate Dylan's 'Time Out of Mind' I think. Not that he exactly went away before it came out but he nearly died, that ought to count! And there's a Johnny Cash comeback, isn't there?

offside said...

A cash comeback is called a refund, non?

Zeph said...

Guitou, so nice when one's heroes don't disappoint!

James said...

Sorry to go back to the top. I would've asked this at the time, but I wasn't there. I never am...

How do you pronounce LOL. Is it "Lol" as in Tolhurst, or as in "lolling against the bar with a Negroni Sbagliato in your hand while the warm Med laps around your feet and the evening sunshine picks out the misguided lemony highlights in your hair"?

Or is it "Ell Owe Ell"?


Also about "offside" (the word not the guy), it might not make sense, but the alternative is the very American image of a ref pointing at a player while shouting "You're OUTTATHEGAME!!!"

Zeph said...

Offy, back in Europe for only a few weeks and already you want a refund?

James: Chanelle and her friends seem to say Lo', owing to a general dislike of final consonants. Never ell owe ell. Misguided lemony highlights are definitely present at all times.

DoctorShoot said...

...james
lemony highlights!!??
can I have some of them on my card pls..sounds like the sort of thing a damp horse fan like me would go for...

DoctorShoot said...

...btw Marcela Maro Y Araujo perfect pitch one for boys and one for girls one new and one used... what does it all mean?

MotM said...

Comebacks?

Vegas Elvis beats Heartbreak Hotel Elvis any day.

byebyebadman said...

Comeback 'album' I think was specified - does it matter what they're coming back from? I assumed years of inertia but if it's near death as in Dylan's case there are lots of examples. Generally when bands get back together it's for a money-spinning trawl down memory lane rather than to record new stuff. I was in the cinema on Sunday and they were plugging the comeback tour of Genesis.

Evergreen by Echo and the Bunnymen was a great comeback album.

There's also a band called the Aliens around at the minute, all three of whom were, at one point or another, in the Beta Band. Recommend 'Astronomy for Dogs' very highly.

guitougoal said...

comebacks,
-motm El-Vegas, International hotel 69-YES-
-Eagles 95-
-"la femme du boulanger" :a breadmaker's cat"pomponette" taking the blame instead of the unfaithful wife-best comeback scene in films history-
-Elvis again 2007 in Stockholm
-my girlfriend in 1999, 12 years later with two kids-

guitougoal said...

zeph.
what about Bob Dylan?

Zeph said...

What about him, Guitou? You could possibly say two comebacks if you count the other time with the motorcycle crash, or even more if you think ..
(stoppit Zeph)

bluedaddy said...

I take 'comeback' to mean 'didnt record for a while, went out of public conciousness, came back with an admired album', but that seems to make it too tough.

I can't bring myself to accept Take That (snobbish I know, but I loathe Boybandism, though I will make an exception for The Monkees), but it does fit the bill.

American Recordings by Johnny Cash probably best cuts the mustard as a bona fide Comeback album.

HannibalBrooks said...

Songs For Swinging Lovers by Frank Sinatra would be my choice. In fact, any of the albums by the original Comeback Kid which were orchestrated by Nelson Riddle were very worthwhile making.

Frankie Baby's career as a bobbysox teenage hearthrob crooner in the Tommy Dorsey band were well and truly over in 1953. He was 38, a 'has been' and on his uppers, when some of his Italian chums made the producers of From Here To Eternity 'an offer they couldn't refuse'.

Francis Albert won the Best Supporting Actor Oscar and his singing career went into the stratosphere after he was signed up to Capitol Records and paired up with Capitols in-house musical arrangement genius, Nelson Riddle.

Everything that we now associate with Frank Sinatra happened during what was essentially a 'comeback'.

Johnny Cash never really went anywhere from wence he had to make a comeback, he was always a God anyway.

Bands and Rock 'n' Roll though ... hmmmm ... pass.

bluedaddy said...

Good call Brooks. You free next Monday night?

Doesnt Wee Small Hours count as the comeback album though?

HannibalBrooks said...

One of the greatest albums of all time, Kind of Blue by Miles Davis is another one.

Miles spent five years in the wilderness of the heroin junkie from the late 40s to the mid 50s after his 'career' as a sideman with people like Charlie Parker dried up.

Miles overcame his addiction with the help of his father and also with the help of probably the greatest boxer of all-time, Sugar Ray Robinson and started again after he met up with Gerry Mulligan. The each had a flat in the same appartment block in New York and from their jams and colaboration the album Birth of the Cool was born.

Kind of Blue came along as a result of two one day sessions on 2nd March and 22nd April 1959 and released on 17th August the same year. It accounts for something like 80% of all of the Jazz albums ever sold ... or so I read somewhere once in music industry trade journal.

HannibalBrooks said...

Yes BD, anything Frank recorded after 1953 counts as a comeback album. In The Wee Small Hours is one of them. I just happen to be a big fan of Nelson Riddle's work. I can't remember who produced 'Hours' but I don't think that it was Mr Riddle, it is acknowledge as probably the first Concept Album.

Zeph said...

How about the Buena Vista Social Club guys, the eponymous album and then their various solo offerings before they all sadly snuffed it? Got to be quite a comeback there.

HannibalBrooks said...

You could also argue that Private Dancer by Tina Turner or Permanent Vacation by Aerosmith counted as comeback albums but I would give you an robust arguement about whether they counted as 'worthwhile' or not ;o)

guitougoal said...

right on zeph, only a Mozart revival could beat the buena vista s.c comeback.

Zeph said...

Watch these!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uf9vhH55E6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVpwpQWLQTo

HannibalBrooks said...

Good shout Zeph and great clips

guitougoal said...

I could open only the first one, Ruben Gonzales.....is it frenesi?I am not sure, beautiful.

Zephirine said...

I think the link's all there Guitou, you know sometimes the format of the page cuts off the end of the link? If you view it in the wide format you can copy it all.

I'll mail it you anyway, it's great.

bluedaddy said...

Went to Havana about six years ago. Music seems as natural as breathing there. Would wander into a bar expecting the great music coming through the windows to be recorded, only to find some exquisite combo jamming away.
My son, then 16 months, who is a born dancer, had a ball there.

Sebastian said...

lovely clips, zeph. buenavista sc was also bloody good film... bringing it back to michael moore and documentaries and so on. eh?

as for cuban relationship to music, this is inspired satire if ever there was any.
don't worry about WHAT* they say, it's more how they say it...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb9scDZS_C8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSxD4w2fU6w&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kRw7yI9iTU&mode=related&search=


* example:

- can one swim to miami?
- depends
- on what?
- on how far you are?
- on what?
-how far you are... etc

chelseaexile said...

Oh Brooksie! I spent many a happy hour doing 'the white-man's-overbite-dance' to What's Love Got to do With It, down my local DiscoPub. Whatever happened to the DiscoPub...or white stilletos... or Fila tracksuits...(sigh)... Flicks at Dartford, Zero 6 in Southend, you know, small boys, disco dancing? Isn't it!? Hmm. Speaker stacks for goalposts.. marvelous.

marcela said...

er... that was marcela, BTW. not sebastian. ooops.

chelseaexile said...

Has anyone mentioned John Lennon's Double Fantasy? Alas we'll never know if it was the precursor to greater hights...

chelseaexile said...

Who Are You? by The Who! I'm warming up now!

chelseaexile said...

Manifesto by Roxy Music? This would be so much easier if I just moved the laptop to where the records are...!

guitougoal said...

Yes Marcela, Michael Moore and Cuba are now related, his ending in Cuba with their music in background struck some nerves last night. Ron Howard the first speaker couldn't find his words ..the movie should come out soon expect a lot of noise. I recommed it.

honolulu said...

Ummm, hello.

The topic is Titi, I suggest you Frenchies get back on your sheep.

marcela said...

lulu!! - are you feeling any less heartbroken yet?

guy - the new moore doc sound a must-see fack-me film!!

they're something SO fab about seeing really good documentary on big screen.

buenavista was spot on, i found, in capturing a climate and a story and portraying the characters with enormous humanity and integrity. judging no-one yet still managing to transmit so much about a bigger picture... really great.

and there's some wim wenders stuff i haven't enjoyed.

i also found michael moore's stance at that oscar ceremony truly admirable. truly, truly good use of a 'live televised event reaching a global audience'.

thinking once again we must find a suitable logo to spread on that corner advert post in time for becks first kick with the US galactix.

how else are chanelle and the girls going to get a political education, right.

re the comebacks, i think of the beta band as a groovy new sound... can't believe some of them are already 'coming back' under another name.

reminds me of the friend who kindly suggested some 20 or so years go that i stick to the sex and drugs and leave the rock 'n roll to those who know about it.

having said that, rejoiced in posting some marianne faithful recent(ish) clips for zeph and mimi on a virtual drinking spree. surely she counts as a come back, albeit not a band...?

guitougoal said...

Honolulu,
Titi broke up with Fabregas and have a new boy- friend, Ronaldhino, they should make a nice couple -
Your Titi is no more, he is now Henrique de Barcelonna con mucho dineros.
marcella, your friend was wise"stick with what you know best !"

mimi said...

Too many links, too little time. Have not had a chance to keep up with this thread since the shoes - was that here?
Marcela: did I see a Wim Wenders ref? Aah me, Wings of Desire. Could that count as a Nick Cave comeback?

guitougoal said...

about Moore's movie, you have to go through the first depressing 20 min but then it was assassination mambo.Also this time it's more factual than political..

honolulu said...

Hello Marcela!
I'm just sad and kind of frightened but invigorated and excited at the same time.

I'm a huge fan of Ken Burns- although I politicize everything and admire Michael Moore and all the other whistle blowers, there is something to be said for Burns' understatement. "The West" disc 4 reduces everyone to blubbering jelly so gently...

Will you be covering Copa? I'll be watching the important games with a bunch of Mexicans and So. Americans so we'll probably be watching a So.American feed.

honolulu said...

I fear that titi is teasing cesc , making him jealous... and wants to be reunited with him next season.
This is why i'm frightened.

marcela said...

wings of desire, for instance...
didn't really ever get that into it.

although it did have the saving grace of marking the comeback of...
Colombo!!

hero.

lulu, i'm sorry about your broken heart. truly. Enrrique de Barcelona... c'est vrai.

i don't think i've seen any ken burns. but he did make JAZZ, didn't he?

http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/

which should provide a nice segue for mr brooksie when and if he returns :)

am a little slow with some of the comeback album suggestions here but CE... roxy music?! really?!
(although i suspect you moved over to where the records are and are buried in a lovefest with your old faves...)

mimi said...

Always had a soft spot for the old Roxy - even later stuff like Avalon. My eternal fave will always be Virginia Plain. No idea about come-back stuff.
Got to go. Night night.

DoctorShoot said...

santana supernatural... another one from someone who never really went away

honolulu said...

Yes- he's done: The Civil War, Baseball, The West, Jazz...

Thank you for your concern about my bruised and battered heart. My friends laughed at me about it. (With friends like these, eh?) The shame and embarrassment... and the hundreds of dollars of Arsenal kits that will have to be stored away.

I'm with Mimi. "Wings of Desire" is in my top 5 of all time.

chelseaexile said...

Marcela, I'm back as Mrs Exile didn't appreciate my Brian Ferry impersonation and has banished me... if I can't tempt you with Roxy, how about Green Day's American Idiot?

Off to bed now...

levremance said...

A belated thanks for another very amusing report, cheers Zeph.

On comebacks, I second the HB Nelson Riddle get. I recommend NR's work from his time at the German MPS label.

The album Communication is jazz/pop/latin at its best. It contains the sublime Uptown Dance, a piece of music you will never weary of.

Oscar Peterson also excelled at MPS but I'm not sure if that was a comeback or not. For a great compilation of MPS EuroJazz try the 2CD Snowflakes.

guitougoal said...

This is a very interesting thread, with so much valuable information, music, politics, shoe-shopping-amazing what you may accomplish when offside and greengrass are not around constently gesturing at each other-I wonder if we could technically lock them out of this blog and let them knock at the door just for fun...

file said...

hey, who bought Wim in?

Wings is in my top 5 too lulu, for truth, and Faraway, So Close is pushing too and Till the End of the World

Wenders always pitches the soundtracks perfectly, doesn't he usually insist on original songs?

munni said...

lulu, I spent the weekend being distraught, but have now decided that Thierry leaving is actually for the best, at least from a tactical standpoint. I am worried though, that it might signal the beginning of a mass exodus. Cesc must not leave!

Ken Burns' Jazz was brilliant. It aired on pbs the week I moved to LA. Television was my only friend.

I never really got into Wings of Desire either, don't know why though...I think I found it very cold.

file said...

top 5 movie soundtracks:

1. Round Midnight
2. Till the end of the world
3. Merry Christmas, Mr Lawrence
4. True Romance
5. Angel Heart

levremance said...

Anyone else familiar with the term Tapir Mellow?

Used to described the slightly bedraggled, long-snouted expression worn by mug punters who have watched a series of so-called mudrunners finish fourth or worse on a rainy afternoon only to have the day saved by an omen bet in the last.

DoctorShoot said...

levre

prime tallow
on the hoof
may not win the last in the wet and pay for a taxi home,

but the tapir has been consumed and I believe the aftertastes were anything but mellow.

DoctorShoot said...

...by the way levre if you get a chance to read the shipping forecast pieces by mimi, zeph, and file over in pseud's other stuff you will be rewarded I promise.
top shelf material...

levremance said...

Doc - I noticed that a number of Sydney supporters looked decidedly Tapir Sallow on Saturday night.

I had a look in the other place a while back, I'll revisit.

offgrass said...

knock knock...

file said...

password?

HannibalBrooks said...

Top 5 Movies Soundtracks

1. The Mission
2. Ascenseur Pour L'échafaud
3. Once Upon A Time In America
4. The Legend of 1900
5. Midnight Cowboy

CE - Good shout with Manifesto by Roxy Music, a genuine comeback album, I too liked later Roxy stuff like Flesh & Blood and Avalon. I never knew until I saw the following clip that Roxy Music were the direct inspiration for two of my idols, Bernard Edwards and Nile Rogers when they formed the immortal Chic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4VfG0oFe3k

Fave Roxy track ... Do The Strand

Ebren said...

No Exit by Blondie? The album was pants, but Maria got to number one

chelseaexile said...

Freak Out! Bowie's Let's Dance had a lot of Nile Rogers on it. Mind you he did also work with Duran Duran...

Does anyone remember THe Human League's comback album Crash. Produced by Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis at the SOS studios? Strange is the word I'm after, I think.....

bluedaddy said...

Ken Burns' early stuff was good - his Blues period - but his later work, after his dramatic change of viewpoint, was better rewarded.

chelseaexile said...

I've been a bit slow on the uptake here.. I have Ken Burns' The Civil War on DVD and find myself going back to it regularly. It keeps popping up on the History Channel too.

Mrs Exile had a rather odd crush on one of the contributors; Shelby Foote. Though I think it was his accent as much as his name that did it.

The West was great too... I've just done a quick Google and he has another series about WW2 coming up. can't wait!

offgrass said...

er, off-topic?

Zeph said...

Offgrass, come in, help yourself as always. Or selves. Guitou was only joking, I'm sure (?)

Doc, thanks for the boost for Otherstuff, could I just point out that 'top-shelf material' means something slightly different over here as that's where the newaspaper shops put the dirty magazines... or maybe that's what you meant...

The Legend of 1900, weird film, great soundtrack.

HannibalBrooks said...

Bernard trumps Nile's work with the Duranies by having produced The Power Station .. John and Andy Taylor fron DD, Robert Palmer and gawd bless him, Chic's drummer Tony Thompson, with Bernard at the helm, thought it would be a good idea to cover T-Rex's 'Get it On'... not the best idea that any of them ever came up with but for me personally it's Bernard being responsible for getting Robert Palmer and DD's Andy Talor into the same room and making Addicted To Love takes the chocolate hob nob.

I would probably never forgive a lesser mortals such diabolical association but for what Bernard has given to me; absolute forgiveness is but a small price to pay.

Bernard Edwards is one of the funkiest bass guitar players you are ever going to hear, his bass playing blew my mind when I was about 13. I played bass guitar almost everyday for the next 15 years.

Disco, US & Uk House and Garage Music, Hip Hop, R&B and even Popular music itself today owe a great deal to these two musical soulmates, their work has been immensely influential.

Addicted To Love, Like A Virgin and Let's Dance are 80s pop anthems but their work together with Chic, Sister Sledge, Diana Ross contain an exceptional number of classic dance tracks; Good Times, Le Freak, I Want Your Love, We Are Family, Thinking Of You, Lost In Music, I'm Coming Out ..er Rapper's Delight and dozens of other sample based club, rap and soul hits.

Chic were awesome and their records still sound spectacular whenever played loudly in any room that happens to be full of people who want to party. Everybody who likes a boogie loves one Chic related dancefloor hit or other, it's just that they might not necessarily be aware of it.

... and all they originally wanted to do was to be like late 70's Roxy Music.

chelseaexile said...

offgrass, yes I'd say so...

chelseaexile said...

Although Brooksie, you could also argue that Bernard was directly responsible for Level 42's Mark King and his giant thumb...

Ahh Thinking of You...what a stormer... too early in the day for nostalgia...

greenside said...

That's OK, I'll just have a fag outside on the pavement and look in through the window.

marcela said...

offgreen,

the bits of you what grew up in france... ever come accross something called Rocollection (or similar)

it was like a rappy song sang around lines from bigger american hits.

et les bee gees chante, et les bee gees chante...

it was ALWAYS picked by the djs circa 1979 in argentina. have never been able to find it again since moving to europe.

i brought wim in because he directed buena vista social club.

can't remember who brought buena vista in.

more recent good sountrack can be found in
'The Beat that My Heart Skipped'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3fCdwRSVI0

must run.

bluedaddy said...

Still with with Clough in charge, even Titus Bramble would win European cups.

Top OSTs:

Ocean's Eleven (David Holmes version)
West Side Story
Saturday Night Fever
Taxi Driver
Aguirre Wrath of God

offgreen said...

Indeed, Marcela, Rock Collection was a huge hit back then by Laurent Voulzy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSOLWicKJas

There's even a whole verse for HB

"On a tous dans le coeur le ticket pour Liverpool / Sortie de scène hélicoptère pour échapper à la foule / Excuse me sir, mais j'entends plus Big Ben qui sonne / les scarabées bourdonnent, c'est la folie à London"

bluedaddy said...

It dont mean a thing if it aint got that swing
Bap sho wap bap sho wap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEvCPvLh_60&mode=related&search=

hors-jeu said...

"Le freak" by Chic was number one for ages in France in the late seventies. It was also vastly misunderstood in terms of lyrics.

In French, "Le fric" is slang for money, cash, moolah. And so, naive, non english speaking teenagers were convinced they were singing "Le fric, c'est chic".

No one understood the "Aw, Freak out!" bit either. Everyone thought it was "A-frica!".

bluedaddy said...

I love that whole misheard lyrics thing.

For several years I misheard a Bluetones song lyric as

'Your builder costs too much, and you cant see him working anymore'

instead of

'Your pills have cost too much, and you cant feel them working anymore'

chelseaexile said...

BD, my favorite lyric of all time was from the Bluetones'Bluetonic "When I am sad and weary/when all my hope is gone/I walk around my house and/ think of you with nothing on..." Genius!

In my house in the 1980's the first line of UB40's Food for Thought was "I like green bananas.." not the more classy "Ivory madonna..".

I remember always having to wait for the Clash albums to come out so you could get the lyrics sleeve and see what the hell Joe Strummer had been howling about on the singles... By which time you'd made up your own words anyway! Altogther..."Tommy's Mum..."!

marcela said...

bloody hell, orsay!!

that clip has brought a smile to my day!!!

it was much longer, non?

and WHO IS this laurent? he's even got teeth that tie in nicely to the whole lapin subnarrative running through pseuds.

ahh, the memories... rockollection. a dance floor favourite from the school disco.

aaaaa ... frica!

yes, we used to mis-sing that too.

made my day, laurent has :)

many many thanks.

byebyebadman said...

If we're throwing in soundtracks I'd like an honourable mention for Manhattan by George Gershwin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1T0lqdxbZU

THE finest opening to a film, IMHO.

offside said...

Yep, there was a B-side to Rockcollection. Laurent Voulzy is still making music today. His schmaltzy, syrupy pop is not exactly my cup of tea but he has a couple of other decent songs to his name.

More famous for his songwriting partnership with Alain Souchon, Voulzy is the composer and arranger and Souchon writes very good, witty lyrics.

Glad you enjoyed that!

byebyebadman said...

Featuring the music of Gershwin I should have said.

guitougoal said...

Chic was hot, "le Freak c'est chic" also "Good times" are great illustration of the disco fever period.
Woulzy Rockocollection it's cool. He just made a nice summer nostalgic beach song......something sur la plage..whatever but I wonder how offside managed to get in, I won't be surprised if mimi throw him the keys.

offside said...

I don't want to rat, but it was Marcela who opened the door for me. I don't know what you told her behind my back, Giutou, but Mimi don't talk to me no more.

MotM said...

Chic were sensational, but nobody mentioned their finest moment - has so great a song ever been married to so cheesy a presentation (although that lilt of French accent made my 18 year-old heart "skeep uh beet")

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKvhnviI-IQ

Manhattan's opening scene is the third best in movie history after Raging Bull and Aguirre - the Wrath of God.

file said...

I've been taking me Hi-Fi pills

Top 5 Movie Opening Scenes (that I can remember off the top of me hat):

1. Good Fellas
2. The Crow
3. The Big Blue
4. Meaning of Life
5. Blade Runner

file said...

o yeah

6. Brazil
7. Drowning By Numbers

offside said...

File, did you buy your Hi-Fi pills on the net, following a link you found in a spam message? They really shouldn't make you come up with a Top 7.

Any side effects? Try a list of your all-time best film endings and let's see what happens...

file said...

8. Matrix

offside said...

Oh dear... how many pills did you take?

file said...

offle, yep, they said they'd enlarge my list making capacity

top 5 movie endings:

5. Butch and Sundance
4. Blade Runner (non-dir)
3. Blues Brothers
2. The Usual Suspects
1. Being There

and back to openings:

9. The Last Emperor

and soundtracks

6. Deliverence

chance gardner said...

N°1? Why, thank you, Mr File.

file said...

openings again:

10. The Hunger (mmm Catherine...with teeth)

file said...

time to blossom, chancey

catherine deneuve said...

Just what are you insinuating, young man? I may be getting on but I'm not using dentures yet.

chelseaexile said...

How can you have great opening scenes and not have The Godfather or Touch of Evil?

chancey said...

Hmmmmm... Where's the remote?

file said...

...er and endings:

6. The Ladykillers (original)

file said...

mmm

top 5 French Actors (F)

1. Isabelle Adjani
2. Catherine Deneuve
3. Brigitte Bardot
4. Isabella Rossellini
5. Juliette Binoche
6. Vanessa Paradis *

* hon mensch

chelseaexile said...

File, a shout for Phillipe Leotarde. Star of my favorite French film La Balance. Coolest cat since Alain Delon...

HannibalBrooks said...

CE - All Mark King ever really wanted to do was to be was Stanley Clarke. Bernard played bass overhand with the tips of his fingers, he very rarely, if ever, slapped and twanged with his thumb and index finger. Larry Graham invented the slapped bass style, but Stanley Clarke explored it comprehensively and was Mark King's sole inspiration for what he and his chums were later to inflict upon an unsuspecting nation.

Stanley was a member of Weather Report, the band that was formed by the musicians who played on Miles Davis' 'Bitches Brew' album sessions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC001Z3XWKE&mode=related&search=

jean-luc godard said...

Jeanne Moreau, Carole Bouquet, Josiane Balasko?

offside said...

I once shook Stanley Clarke's hand. It felt like his fingers wrapped all the way around my hand, wrist and forearm.

Firm shake, too.

file said...

yeh, well obviously these lists are pretty subjective, you are most welcome to provide revisionist examples for peer review

ce, I don't know Leotarde but what a name! Alain Delon is tres cool pour les chats, have you seen Le Samurai?

Jean-luc, Jeanne Moreau is about 270 years old and can include Louise Brooks then?

jean-luc truffaut said...

Louise Brooks as a French actress? Sure, if you like.

file said...

well she was in Paris...

Jeanne Moreau said...

I may be nearly eighty, jeune homme, but I can still eat you for breakfast. And Alain Delon is almost as old as me, so he is more deep frozen than cool these days...

file said...

here's one for you folk on the Angle Isle

Top 5 Movie Sequences in the Rain:

1. 'Time to die' scene from Blade Runner
2. Dexter Gordon, streets of Paris Round Midnight
3. Steve Martin and John Candy in a burnt out car in Planes, Trains and Automobiles
4. just about all of The Outlaw Josey Wales
5. Jo Cotton on the streets of Vienna in the Third Man

honolulu said...

That is exactly how I feel, munni, after the inital shock amd horror wore off I think it will be best all around- I have complete faith that Arsene can build a new squad without him. He's done it before- precisely with those "irreplaceable" players (ebren!)

I have to share this movie with you all, and I love the soundtrack:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041141

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBbEAohfPsw

Elena is a brilliant heroine- especially in 1950.

chelseaexile said...

File, I think I may have seen Le Samuri a few too many times as a teenager... It started me on Gauloise..

If you can catch La Balance it really is a cracking movie.

HB, I remember Weather Report. In fact I think I've got a copy of Live in Tokyo knocking about somewhere. I don't rememeber Stanley Clarke being in the bans though. I thought Jaco Pastorius was the Bass player... Quite right about Mark King though...

guitougoal said...

as I said before offside and greengrass can spoil the
party, poor Zeph, that's not what she had in mind.
Now File is throwing all kind of names like if he was on Russell Brand's thread.Guys if I was in Hollywood I would never pick you for assistance just try to keep up with your sleezy t-shirts business pleeease.
Mimi is an angel of patience,together we are working on the remake of "Gone with the wind" the moden version with Zeta Jones as Scarlet.

byebyebadman said...

Just returned from the pictures where I watched Taking Liberties. An excellent film which I highly recommend you see if you have the chance.

mimi said...

Sorry- been a bit busy.
Offy - of course I'm talking to you, but you know - you went to France, you didn't include Scotland in your Euro travels...
Did I catch sight of Deliverence on the thread? Shudders and scary whenever you hear those Duelling Banjoes. Must read the thread properly.

DoctorShoot said...

file
6. Closing scene of Solaris (original Russian version) - in my humble opinion the quintissential and most definitive statement on Rain with (I think shostakovich) music since 'the good earth'

MotM said...

Jean-Louis Trintignant in The Conformist looked pretty cool and Isabelle Adjani in One Deadly Summer looked er... better stop.

mimi said...

Ah doc - rain. Without having read the full thread on this. And there is a Beethoven storm moment, but in a more of the 80s moment, I think there are 2 fab JAMC rain moments. Happy when it rains. and April Skies And as of course several other members of the crew would say "ocean rain" from our old friends the Bunnymen.

angharad said...

File: Zed and 2 noughts?

byebyebadman said...

April Skies is a beauty. I haven't heard that in years, thanks mimi I think I'll go and fish that out.

Ocean Rain is a good call...mentioned them previousy might I also throw in Dry The Rain by the Beta Band?

offside said...

angharad, remind me Zed and two noughts is by Peter Greenaway, right? With a few scenes that could make some people a bit queasy?

I saw it a long time ago so I can't recall who plays the female lead but I seem to remember she's not half an actress.

Mimi, you're talking to me?

mimi said...

Offy: why did you think I wasn't talking to you? Just cos you sent a mediterranean shark army to attack my kitten ....

offside said...

Mimi,

either you need glasses or your cats are boasting, it was a school of sardines I sent, as a peace offering.

As to why Guitou would try to drive a wedge between us, I have no idea...

mimi said...

Offy: small black seemed very pleased at a victory. I assumed it was the shark army, though perhaps the fact she was just licking her lips being smug without dragging a carcass home should have made me realise there was no need to clear the freezer for a large kill. Sardines, yum.
Why is Guitou drawn into this? Has he suggested a wedge between Scotland and a travelling Frenchman? Eh?

offside said...

I don't know, you'd best ask him. The way he calls you his "angel" and wants to lock me out, you'd think he was trying to make me jealous...

guitougoal said...

btw File 5 movie sequences in the rain pretty good if only "singing in the rain" was included.

mimi said...

Offy - I don't know. I go away for a short time, thinking we were all happy touring around in the Morgan, eating raspberries and keeping little Snowy safe, and now I find there's discord in the camp.

offside said...

Oh no, that's the other place. Everything is fine there. So we can have the discord here. Neat, non?

mimi said...

Is it on topic or off-topic to go back to classic film openings?
How about this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOxVjtZujcU

Apocalypse Now - to my mind one of the greatest films of all time and up there for contention of Coppola's finest moments with The Godfather 2.
Here music, images, words. Fantastic.

levremance said...

Film opening, The Player has a good one. Fine soundtrack too.

Closing sequence shootouts don't come much better than The Wild Bunch.

Soundtracks, my picks:
Thomas Crown Affair (68 version)- Michel Le Grand
Bullitt - Lalo Schifrin
Get Carter (70 version) - Roy Budd
Barbarella - Charles Fox

guitougoal said...

Levremance,
if you are a Sam Peckinpah fan, "Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia" and his "Billy the Kid" of course, with Kris K. Bob Dylan. James Coburn..must watch them.
"Wild Bunch" and Peckinpah violence effects in slow motion were probably Tarantino's inspirational source..

levremance said...

Guitougoal - thanks for the tip, I haven't seen either of them so I'll get them in.

The start of the Wild Bunch is memorable too with the botched bank robbery, the little kids and the scorpion.

I second Singing in the Rain for the movie rain scenes list.

I'd put it up for the Top 5 loungeroom brutality scenes too for Clockwork Orange.

guitougoal said...

"Reservoir Dogs' soung track, not bad..stuck in the midle,stealers wheel.

file said...

well, I don't know why I came here tonight
I got the feeling that something ain't right
I'm so scared in case I fall off my chair
and I'm wondering how I'll get down the stairs

pseuds' to the left of me, posters to the right
here I am stuck in the middle with Guitou...

marcela said...

wow.
kubrick's in now.

don't get me started...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzBZqTqUxXM

byebyebadman said...

Ha ha - what a creative use of space station lego!

This never fails to make me laugh - short but sweet from the brilliant Dr Strangelove...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29czSGSPE7k

chelseaexile said...

A sub-genre; the naff rain scene. Personified by the end of 4 Weddings and a Funeral..

Lev.. The Windmills of Your Mind from Thomas Crowm. The Noel Harrison version. Still makes the hairs on my neck stand up..

file said...

ce,

as it happens I'm bit torrenting the Brosnan version soundtrack right now for Nina Simone's Sinnerman

both of the movies are really good and it's great that Faye Dunnaway crosses the years

a movie/rain top 5 is not easy to come up with, especially if you discount the obvious song and dance

Audrey said...

Ahem... Breakfast at Tiffany's? The famous rain/squashed cat scene?

file said...

audrey (little shop of horrors or Hepburn I wonder!)

shhh, I've never seen Breakfast at Tiff's, please elucidate...

levremance said...

Tommy Crown 68 trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzajlo4ZJ0I

Zeph said...

Hm, posted as Audrey and forgot she's dead - apologies to her shade.... (so it's all right to steal her identity if she's alive? .. oh, leave it Zeph)

File, Breakfast at T is like Pretty Woman - rose-tinted, pretends to be sophisticated but isn't really, and matchless gooey fun for a cold winter evening. It ends with a clinch in the pouring rain, Hepburn's cat squished between the two lovers, 'Moon River' on the soundtrack....

file said...

levre, the King of Thailand, where I live, doesn't like YouTube and I can't access, damn shame, thanks for trying

Zeph, do you look like Audrey? (shop of horrors/Hepbern?)

Zeph said...

File: none of them. Not young and dim enough for Audrey I, not big, green and hungry enough for Audrey II, not thin enough for Hepburn (and still alive last time I looked).

hannibalBrooks said...

Marcela

Fantastic Space Odyssey clip ... thanks for posting :o)

CE - You are quite right, I got Stanley confused with Mr Pastorious. It's been 20 years since I got those records.

chelseaexile said...

File, just skip Sting's errant version of windmills..

HB, its a rare achievement for me to be able to correct you over anything musical... :@)

file said...

zeph, I'm triangulating now:

somewhere inbetween young and dim, green, hungry and slim

Soylent Green?
Lime Regis?
Olive Oil?

file said...

ce, is it Sting is it? I'll have to listen again when it comes, but I like the Magritte businessmen raining in the galleries and Nina ....

mimi said...

Windmills of your Mind? Why does this cause an errant thought of Viv Stanshall to flutter round my head like a butterfly that won't be caught? One of you surely can enlighten me.

mimi said...

Marcela - long time to reply about the shoes, but just went to take a look. Stupendous. Right up my street, but when would I wear them!!

bluedaddy said...

Mimi, surely it's a nice pair for a WAG wedding?

mimi said...

Still waiting on an invite Bluedad, still waiting.

marcela said...

mimi.

oh, mimi.

you're trying to get me to explain to you on an internet thread 'where' to wear your fuck-me shoes?!

oh, no, i won't.

now, if you'll excuse me, i'm going to put Jaco on and see about that work that isn't getting itself done...

(BTW. I think windmills of my mind is pseud's unofficial own theme song.)

HannibalBrooks said...

mimi

Where to wear Fuck Me Pumps is a product of The Canyons Of Your Mind ... or is it The Wardrobe Of Your Soul? ... In the section labelled 'Shirts'?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0XnqWGhjo8

guitougoal said...

-windmills out of your mind and "summer 45" sound track.
-Joan Baez "sacco and spaghetti"

DoctorShoot said...

..and like, why doesn't a princess come out and have a like thingy with the hero after he kills all the baddies and that?...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_0UPh5FELg

and why is it raining in the house and what's he trying..

mimi said...

HB: it had to be you! If I remember rightly you also knew about the banana growing in the Sefton Park glasshouse. Thank you for this. If Marcela, I think it was thought that Windmills of your mind shoud be a theme for Pseuds, I would argue that the BDDDB Canyons is far more us!
Thank you my friend.

DoctorShoot said...

Rainy day movie scenes pt 5:

butch, sundance, and josey wales in bullet proof raincoats sing along to the Philip Glass Ensemble's Koyanasquatsi soundtrack whilst smoking cigars on horseback under the verandah of the rio grande saloon...
fade

next scene: Jeanette's Porque te Vas can be heard on a crackling portable turntable while the Cria Cuervos girls dance in a curtained window across the street... thunder, lightning, the storm gets worse

fade

long shot: the tiny wooden town surrounded by solaris ocean, tuneful voices can be heard faintly rising above the mists... it's the new wilburys: waylon jennings, bob dylan and gene kelly:
"They'll stone ya just a-like they said they would ..."
wipe

final scene:
tracks of my tears performed by smokey and the miracles in a yellow submersible, backed by wet wet wet counterpointed with six months in a leaky boat by split endz...

MotM said...

Ry Cooder's soundtrack for "Southern Comfort" is v good.

guitougoal said...

doctorshootarainydayscene:
out of your mind number 4-this club is without doubt not healthy, i quit.
great stuff though.

DoctorShoot said...

rainy day madness scene:

pouring across australia...
floods everywhere... help needed...

election coming...

troops begin occupying indigenous communities...

guitougoal said...

-I was reading today about the flood, J.Howard saying 10.000 people lost theit home, worst flood in 17 years-
are the troops crack down on the villages really related to child abuses?

DoctorShoot said...

Guito
three points:
1. child abuse statistics in indigenous communities in NT are actually the lowest in Australia.
2. a recent study in Melbourne, Victoria, established that one in four females (in wider society) had suffered one form of abuse or another - report buried
3. worst practice neglect and now invasive approach in regard to indigenous health and resources almost certain to make things worse

Example: Mutitjule community (where I have lived and worked) of approx 200 - 300 popn had a 2.4million dollar (environmentally unsustainable) police station built - no police staffing it! Meanwhile community have requested a doctor, nurses, dyalisis machine, dietician, swimming pool, soports and recreation professional, etc etc none of it heeded.

Outcome: disgrace and shame and darkening days for Australia...

Moral: shock and awe produces confusion, dismay, anger, self abuse etc..

Final point: indigenous australians have only been reconised as citizens since 1967. little time for an ancient culture to come to terms with grog, drugs, pornography, fast foods, and the other menu items of western society.

Answer: send Chantelle out here quickly as we need a PM who actually cares and has a code of ethics...

DoctorShoot said...

PS:
1. sorry Chanelle not Chantelle...
2. Dr Strangelove is now in charge of future for indigenous communities...

DoctorShoot said...

Guito
it isn't pretty but if you are interested have a look at:

http://www.aifs.gov.au/nch/sheets/rs1.html

DoctorShoot said...

sorry sorry Zeph and everyone...
didn't mean to bring the party down...

I must be getting too old to sit and watch what is happening in silence...

delete my posts if you need to and I'll just sit in the corner and drink my scotch and mope...

guitougoal said...

Thanks Doctor,
for this very valuable piece of information- The comparison with United States explain why this country is so fucked up.
I don't think next prime miister Chanelle would mind that we used her thread to exchange views on humanitarian problems-
I read that the indigenies are leaving their homes, their villages, scared and are going into hiding-
Extremely sad-what can be done?

DoctorShoot said...

Guito
it varies from community to community...
some of the more traditionally oriented communities (especially the remote desert communities) where traditional culture is still strong, are a mixture of bemused, aprehensive, and for a long long time now, angry and depressed.

This doesn't mean that they don't have their lives of laughter and fun mixed with strife and struggle like us all, merely that their resources bases are mostly so fragile and dependent upon western handouts for funding, that the capacity for western style responses are extremely limited.

My feeling is that the older people will try and get the army and police onto their side by giving them glimpses of ancient culture like a fish flashing it's colours... in the hope that more understanding will filter out... not that stanner, eliade, and a thousand other anthropologists and writers haven't already made the point...

alas Australian media is akin to the model goebels strived for with some brave new world soma thrown in...

marcela said...

there were strange tropical rains in UK these past few days.

floods in parts of the country...


docshootsthemoon...
cria cuervos y te comeran los ojos! :)

i used to know all the lyrics to 'porque te vas' by heart. roundabout the same time i knew the words to rockollection - no doubt in a 'soundslike' kinda way.
from chanelle to saura... i guess if thierry goes to barcelona all paths will lead to spain somehow.

i actually went to a live performance of koyaanisqatsi at the barbican not SOO long ago (like within the last decade). i'd seen the film several times before but there was something very trippy about the orquestra playing live to the images...

that's a very interesting fact you mention about lower incidence of child abuse in indigenous communities and widespread abuse of women in 'general society'.

Tell ya what, I would not feel so all alone,
Everybody must get stoned.

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