tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post494907939671745279..comments2023-10-30T08:56:36.302+00:00Comments on Pseuds' corner and home of the frustrated hack: Eboué and the Rights and Obligations of Football Crowds – Mac MillingsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-25515772152294096792008-12-13T19:27:00.000+00:002008-12-13T19:27:00.000+00:00Andrewm - It was when Everton were sleepwalking to...Andrewm - It was when Everton were sleepwalking to relegation in 2003. We move for Moyes at the last possible moment and he turned it round.<BR/><BR/>I would boo Moyes only in those circumstances - consistent impotence in the face of crisis.Tutor GNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12760511105741259932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-46626549613037670572008-12-13T08:26:00.000+00:002008-12-13T08:26:00.000+00:00Then too--and I've just tried it in the privacy of...Then too--and I've just tried it in the privacy of my lair--the more you say "boo" the more it sounds like "Eboue". Life is perhaps just not fair. (And then again, speaking of the fickleness of football fates, let's try to recall that a scant two years back this same young man was being hailed as a coming hero by at least some of the current boo-birds.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-77722997528028067532008-12-13T07:36:00.000+00:002008-12-13T07:36:00.000+00:00Mouth, you've said before that you wished you'd bo...Mouth, you've said before that you wished you'd booed Walter Smith earlier than you did - why were you booing him, and at what point did you decide to do so? What would have to happen for you to boo Moyes?<BR/><BR/>Boo becomes a very strange word the more you use it.Frankie Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726994229958279318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-57857846330688778812008-12-12T18:56:00.000+00:002008-12-12T18:56:00.000+00:00do these people have a heart? they probably do unt...do these people have a heart? they probably do until they are part of a crowd. <BR/>There is some cruelty in a crowd behaviour to the point that a festive and fair competition can be turned into a war-<BR/>Is a ticket to a football game providing the rights to humiliate a player? I don't think so even if it's in the name of Tradition<BR/>.People have always used tradition to justify some horribleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-68859490382342565422008-12-12T18:49:00.000+00:002008-12-12T18:49:00.000+00:00Mac provides a beautiful, fairminded and subtly nu...Mac provides a beautiful, fairminded and subtly nuanced (sorry, Mac, I keep calling you deft in one way or another)argument in favor of that dying virtue fan loyalty. As his Brady Quinn anecdote attests, loyal devotion from the home fan base is something to which U.S. athletes even more than U.K. footballers have never been able to feel accustomed or regard as something to be taken for granted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-7998806274246359192008-12-12T18:43:00.000+00:002008-12-12T18:43:00.000+00:00Mac provides a beautiful, fairminded and subtly nu...Mac provides a beautiful, fairminded and subtly nuanced (sorry, Mac, I keep calling you deft in one way or another)argument in favor of that dying virtue fan loyalty. As his Brady Quinn anecdote attests, loyal devotion from the home fan base is something to which U.S. athletes even more than U.K. footballers have never been able to feel accustomed or regard as something to be taken for granted. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-46304807240214870732008-12-12T17:08:00.000+00:002008-12-12T17:08:00.000+00:00The crowd has the right to have its say, but it ca...The crowd has the right to have its say, but it can be detrimental. I wouldn't boo a player while the match is on (though I came very close with Mark Ward) but (rarely) I have at the end of a game and for a substitution. <BR/><BR/>The most damaging and most useful crowd reaction is "You don't know what you're doing" to a manager. This is a simple trade-off between the short term loss (of a match Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-80771209228935236352008-12-12T16:28:00.000+00:002008-12-12T16:28:00.000+00:00Really interesting argument Mac.It's fashionable t...Really interesting argument Mac.<BR/><BR/>It's fashionable these days to talk about the wisdom of crowds (more <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds" REL="nofollow">here</A>) <BR/><BR/>The idea is that if you asked someone to guess how many windows there are on a double-decker bus (for example), and then asked 100 people the same question and averaged their answers, the Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01325287456027791612noreply@blogger.com