tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post3628322158157476450..comments2023-10-30T08:56:36.302+00:00Comments on Pseuds' corner and home of the frustrated hack: Woolmer, the fallout - mimitigUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-69800258017298372282007-03-23T18:15:00.000+00:002007-03-23T18:15:00.000+00:00Mouth: exactly. I'm still OBOing though with such ...Mouth: exactly. I'm still OBOing though with such feeble shots, Lawrence is rightly not publishing me, but I'd be a hypocrit to pretend I'm not still interested in the matches being played. <BR/>There's been so much cant spouted today that I'm almost sorry to have put up the brief article, but on the other hand, I felt something so monumental merited a forum for discussion. I'm glad to see far Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-22637250592608362232007-03-23T13:41:00.000+00:002007-03-23T13:41:00.000+00:00andrewm - I agree. Were Pakistan still in the tour...andrewm - I agree. Were Pakistan still in the tournament, I would have expected them to withdraw and the competition go into Super Sevens.<BR/><BR/>But that is not the same as abandoning the World Cup.<BR/><BR/>I feel like swearing too.<BR/><BR/>PS I'm contributing to the OBO if printed as it would be hypocritical not to. I also believe that GU and Pseuds have done a good job in giving space to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-71097992997780868552007-03-23T13:13:00.000+00:002007-03-23T13:13:00.000+00:00PS. Sorry about all the swearing today, kids.PS. Sorry about all the swearing today, kids.Frankie Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726994229958279318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-75043924518704367472007-03-23T13:12:00.000+00:002007-03-23T13:12:00.000+00:00Mouth, sport matters in certain circumstances, may...Mouth, sport matters in certain circumstances, maybe a great deal in fact, but I don't think it does in this situation. If Pakistan were still in the tournament I very much like to think they would have gone home, had they been allowed to. I know I wouldn't want to play on. I just think it's disrespectful, whatever people think Woolmer would have wanted. Wearing a fucking armband and having a Frankie Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726994229958279318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-67179527824977266782007-03-23T13:02:00.000+00:002007-03-23T13:02:00.000+00:00andrewm - I take your point and respect your view,...andrewm - I take your point and respect your view, but disagree. Sport does matter. <BR/><BR/>I wouldn't have played Pakistan's game yesterday re-scheduling it for later as a mark of respect, but I can't agree with the tournament being abandoned. We must stand up for what is right and the playing of cricket is right, even in these circumstances.<BR/><BR/>Have you seen "The Miracle of Berne"? Not Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-44942581263473675052007-03-23T12:56:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:56:00.000+00:00Mouth: "To abandon the World Cup would be wrong, a...Mouth: "To abandon the World Cup would be wrong, a capitulation to the forces of violence."<BR/><BR/>With respect, I've never quite understood this attitude, which you hear after every tragic event. It's often followed by, "That would mean they've won" which in this case would be totally irrelevant as we don't know who "they" are.<BR/><BR/>Wouldn't it be nice for once to say, look, we don't have Frankie Morganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16726994229958279318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-34454610765973480312007-03-23T12:53:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:53:00.000+00:00Oh god no! I've just attacked the clickys with a p...Oh god no! I've just attacked the clickys with a program designed to auto - click that I downloaded illegaly off the internet!<BR/><BR/>Only kidding; but seriously: don't send the Guardian lads anything - they get paid FFS!<BR/><BR/>I vote a nice card, or flowers if you can stretch it, to the Woolmers: I'm not a cricket fan, but why not?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-65129836696622984322007-03-23T12:46:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:46:00.000+00:00No, no, no, no, no, no!Random multiple ad clicking...No, no, no, no, no, no!<BR/><BR/>Random multiple ad clicking from the same person will be flagged and see me chucked out.<BR/><BR/>I'm not keeping it for myself as this has been built with other people's contributions and comments. So I don't have a right to the money.<BR/><BR/>Without GU this wouldn't exist - so I thought something to the sportsblog was appropriate.<BR/><BR/>Having a rather Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01325287456027791612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-12478194400362949282007-03-23T12:45:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:45:00.000+00:00The argument that the CWC should be abandoned afte...The argument that the CWC should be abandoned after Woolmer's murder is a compelling one. The idea that the large corporate interests involved will not allow it to happen is easy to describe as an horrific indicment on how we've lost a sense of what's important.<BR/><BR/>If the WC was being held in Australia, NZ or the UK I would have a lot of sympathy with this notion. However, let's not forget Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-84851322669405688242007-03-23T12:40:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:40:00.000+00:00Easy - Sean and Barry are pretty well reimbursed f...Easy - Sean and Barry are pretty well reimbursed for their efforts, or so I would imagine!<BR/><BR/>You should have us all click on the ads and either pocket it yourself (why not?) or chuck a bouquet of flowers chez Woolmer.<BR/><BR/>I'll have a little clicky myself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-68871568832056932582007-03-23T12:38:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:38:00.000+00:00I do seem to write "after all" a lot.[must develop...I do seem to write "after all" a lot.<BR/><BR/>[must develop wider vocabulary, at risk of sounding like a footballer, well, at the end of the day...]BlueinBetishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924428641871120106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-61269858915370682582007-03-23T12:36:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:36:00.000+00:00Ebren,aaah. When do we decide what to buy as a pre...Ebren,<BR/><BR/>aaah. When do we decide what to buy as a pressie? For Seani I recommend a copy of Quadrophenia, after all the Mods win. Racking brains for something for the ray of sunshine that is Mr Glenndinning.BlueinBetishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924428641871120106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-14545288387945403992007-03-23T12:23:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:23:00.000+00:00The adverts that I am not allowed to tell people t...The adverts that I am not allowed to tell people to click on are on the right-hand side of the page under the blog archive.<BR/><BR/>The stated use of the fund is to buy a present for Sean and Barry as blogfathers, then use the rest to fund a Pseud's visit to Tahiti/piss up.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01325287456027791612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-81940418731775003012007-03-23T12:12:00.000+00:002007-03-23T12:12:00.000+00:00MotM,Point taken, perhaps I was a little gloomy. I...MotM,<BR/><BR/>Point taken, perhaps I was a little gloomy. I find it too easy to see the bad in a situation, and always look for the worse in people. Thanks for the reminder. I do love sport, for all the reasons you reminded me of, after all.<BR/><BR/>Ebren.<BR/><BR/>What adverts? I have a pop-up blocker. It doesn't work in the real world, more's the pity. And yes I agree, profit is a simplistic BlueinBetishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924428641871120106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-74914282489842070632007-03-23T11:59:00.000+00:002007-03-23T11:59:00.000+00:00BlueinBetis - I am still uplifted by sport. Despit...BlueinBetis - I am still uplifted by sport. Despite some elements of corporatism and ruthlessness, the vast majority of sport at all levels exists on a foundation of cooperation and respect for the rules. <BR/><BR/>Huge differences can exist between cultures, between teams, between individuals, yet almost without exception, rules are adhered to, the referee's decision accepted, opponents Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-70027599571604448902007-03-23T11:51:00.000+00:002007-03-23T11:51:00.000+00:00No profit motive? - I'll have you know that we've ...No profit motive? - I'll have you know that we've raised almost three pounds from the ads!<BR/><BR/>The internet is changing the way we communicate, perhaps permanantly.<BR/><BR/>I have done very little here.<BR/><BR/>And profit is not evil. I have no problem with people being rewarded for providing a service (i.e. peolpe making money from inventing google) or putting effort in so I don't have toAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01325287456027791612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-24562472415774230622007-03-23T11:38:00.000+00:002007-03-23T11:38:00.000+00:00It won't be stopped. Herein is the dilemma. While ...It won't be stopped. <BR/><BR/>Herein is the dilemma. <BR/><BR/>While we may bounce opinions back and forth about the rights and wrongs of what has happened we know it will continue. And the fact that we question "Should it continue" highlights the fact that we are uncomfortable about what is happening. <BR/><BR/>In the last month we have had numerous examples of how sport has been usurped by BlueinBetishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16924428641871120106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-61310887029814254602007-03-23T11:11:00.000+00:002007-03-23T11:11:00.000+00:00Reemgear - It hurts us believe me. It really does....Reemgear - It hurts us believe me. It really does.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-9812195089595964532007-03-23T11:02:00.000+00:002007-03-23T11:02:00.000+00:00I do wonder whether we will look differently upon ...I do wonder whether we will look differently upon the drama based on whether or not we love cricket ?<BR/><BR/>Imagine if it was Roy Hodgson who'd been murdered, whilst managing Switzerland?<BR/><BR/>Hmm...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-56932521688030667032007-03-23T10:37:00.000+00:002007-03-23T10:37:00.000+00:00I don't think that we live 'in a world gone mad ov...I don't think that we live 'in a world gone mad over sport' at all. I think that we live in a world that has always been mad, it's just that the older and wiser we become; the more obvious it becomes to us, and at a certain critical point we cross a threshold and become 'grumpy old ...'. <BR/><BR/>Due to the nature of everyone's life, escape is imperative. However, as a society, I think that we Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-31226551388901679562007-03-23T10:32:00.000+00:002007-03-23T10:32:00.000+00:00I know nothing about cricket, in fact I didn't eve...I know nothing about cricket, in fact I didn't even know the sport had a world cup, but if there's big money involved, TV rights, betting, etc... the world cup will not be stopped. For the same reasons that the race wasn't stopped when Senna killed himself, even though the organisers knew it right away. It's not the show that must go on, it's the cash registers that need to keep ticking away. <BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-50461329638276852652007-03-23T10:27:00.000+00:002007-03-23T10:27:00.000+00:00News reports from subcontinent talk of an arrest, ...News reports from subcontinent talk of an arrest, I suspect they are on to something. Bob Woolmer was a big guy and his apparently violent demise could not have gone unnoticed in a busy hotel.<BR/><BR/>I don't buy the 'whats the world coming to comments' with regard to money, sport etc. Ever heard of the 1919 Black Sox, "Say it ain't so, Joe". Shoeless Joe Jackson wasn't the first and Hansie levremancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11711102216307672905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-74773004899532511802007-03-23T10:20:00.000+00:002007-03-23T10:20:00.000+00:00I'm going to post here my thought that I am reluct...I'm going to post here my thought that I am reluctant to post at GU.<BR/><BR/>I expect to find that the suspect(s) posed as room service or some such thing and that all this "Bob knew the perpetrator" is wrong. Kingston is a violent place (as are many parts of the world in which cricket is played) and any hotel, especially this one, is impossible to secure from those determined to effect entry. <Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-45756681933903425252007-03-23T10:12:00.000+00:002007-03-23T10:12:00.000+00:00Mouth's tithe suggestion is a good idea.Abandon th...Mouth's tithe suggestion is a good idea.<BR/>Abandon the series? Not when we know so little about how and why Woolmer died/was<BR/>killed.<BR/>There are so many moral issues involved in cricket and other sports, but morals give way to money all across the board - sad, but true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3912136666601692339.post-46539280348098439752007-03-23T10:04:00.000+00:002007-03-23T10:04:00.000+00:00Don't know anything about cricket, well not much a...Don't know anything about cricket, well not much anyway.<BR/><BR/>This bloke has been murdered - could've been anyone from the sounds of things. I fail to see why he would be murdered by an organised betting syndicate as it draws unwanted attention to the crime, and there seems very little scope for Woolmer having disobeyed orders of any kind (he wasn't batting, was he?) that would definitively Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com